Season
3
Episode
17
23 Oct 2024
Voices of Care.
Joy Warmington
Season
3
Episode
17
23 Oct 2024
Voices of Care.
Joy Warmington




In this thought-provoking episode of the Voices of Care podcast, Professor Joy Warmington, CEO of brap, discusses the critical issue of racism in healthcare with host Suhail Mirza. Warmington challenges conventional thinking, arguing that we must move beyond simply being "not racist" to actively "anti-racist." She unpacks complex topics including race as a social construct, systemic barriers in healthcare, and the distinction between transactional and transformational change. With a focus on creating truly inclusive environments, Warmington offers insights on courageous leadership and paints an inspiring vision for a more equitable NHS that confidently embraces its diversity.
"White people think that race has nothing to do with them"
Joy Warmington
CEO of brap
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We bring together the leaders, innovators and voices from across the whole of the healthcare landscape, who have the courage to re-imagine a system fit for the 21st century.
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Rukshana Kapasi OBE
Barnardo's Director of Health, calls for measurable accountability in government's ambition to create "healthiest generation of children" and urges neighbourhood health models to truly partner with voluntary sector
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Duncan Burton and Karen Bonner
In this episode of Voices of Care, Duncan Burton, Chief Nursing Officer for England, and Karen Bonner, Chief Nurse for London, discuss the pressures facing the nursing profession and their vision for its future.
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Helen Dent
The NHS is imposing "huge costs on itself" through outdated funding practices that are simultaneously draining budgets and blocking access to innovative diagnostic technologies, according to Helen Dent, Chief Executive of the British In Vitro Diagnostics Association (BIVDA), speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
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Ben Travis
Ben Travis, Chief Executive of Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust (LGT), has opened up about the remarkable transformation journey of a Trust born from one of the most controversial episodes in NHS history, speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
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Professor Mumtaz Patel
Professor Mumtaz Patel discusses the need for the above vision, the cultural and operational pressures (including “corridor care”)facing physicians and the vital importance of supporting female medical leaders across the globe.
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Paul Rees
In a candid conversation with host Suhail Mirza, Rees discusses the organisation's culture transformation, the maternity crisis, and nursing's critical role in delivering the Government's ten-year NHS plan.
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Helen Whyley
Helen Whyley, Director for the Royal College of Nursing in Wales, joins host Suhail Mirza on this week’s Voices of Care episode to discuss the pressures that led to industrial action, the future of nursing, diversity and much, much more.
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Sim Scavazza
Sim Scavazza, Acting Chair at NHS Buckinghamshire Oxfordshire and Berkshire West Integrated Care Board, sits down with Voices of Care host Suhail Mirza to discuss diversity, cultural change, innovation and the ongoing crisis the industry finds itself in.
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Professor Kamilla Hawthorn
Kamila speaks passionately about funding, GP shortages, technology and inequalities in the eye-opening episode.
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Oonagh Smyth
Oonagh Smyth, CEO of Skills for Care, is this week’s guest on Voices of Care and shares her valuable insight on the current state of the industry, as well as what the future has in store, with host Suhail Mirza.
The Voices of Care Podcast.
Don't miss our latest episodes.
We bring together the leaders, innovators and voices from across the whole of the healthcare landscape, who have the courage to re-imagine a system fit for the 21st century.
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Rukshana Kapasi OBE
Barnardo's Director of Health, calls for measurable accountability in government's ambition to create "healthiest generation of children" and urges neighbourhood health models to truly partner with voluntary sector
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Duncan Burton and Karen Bonner
In this episode of Voices of Care, Duncan Burton, Chief Nursing Officer for England, and Karen Bonner, Chief Nurse for London, discuss the pressures facing the nursing profession and their vision for its future.
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Helen Dent
The NHS is imposing "huge costs on itself" through outdated funding practices that are simultaneously draining budgets and blocking access to innovative diagnostic technologies, according to Helen Dent, Chief Executive of the British In Vitro Diagnostics Association (BIVDA), speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
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Ben Travis
Ben Travis, Chief Executive of Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust (LGT), has opened up about the remarkable transformation journey of a Trust born from one of the most controversial episodes in NHS history, speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
The Voices of Care Podcast.
Don't miss our latest episodes.
We bring together the leaders, innovators and voices from across the whole of the healthcare landscape, who have the courage to re-imagine a system fit for the 21st century.
CTA-Tag

Rukshana Kapasi OBE
Barnardo's Director of Health, calls for measurable accountability in government's ambition to create "healthiest generation of children" and urges neighbourhood health models to truly partner with voluntary sector
CTA-Tag

Duncan Burton and Karen Bonner
In this episode of Voices of Care, Duncan Burton, Chief Nursing Officer for England, and Karen Bonner, Chief Nurse for London, discuss the pressures facing the nursing profession and their vision for its future.
CTA-Tag

Helen Dent
The NHS is imposing "huge costs on itself" through outdated funding practices that are simultaneously draining budgets and blocking access to innovative diagnostic technologies, according to Helen Dent, Chief Executive of the British In Vitro Diagnostics Association (BIVDA), speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
CTA-Tag

Ben Travis
Ben Travis, Chief Executive of Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust (LGT), has opened up about the remarkable transformation journey of a Trust born from one of the most controversial episodes in NHS history, speaking on Newcross Healthcare's Voices of Care podcast with host Suhail Mirza.
Meet our host
Suhail asks the big questions.
The healthcare system stands at one of the most important crossroads in its history. A profound shift in the way care is delivered in set out in the 10 Year Health Plan and the Casey Commission is due to deliver its initial Report into social care in 2026.
I am proud to have been the host of Voices of Care since its inception in 2022 and we have been honoured to have welcomed some of the most celebrated, successful and innovative leaders from across the healthcare landscape to share their stories and insights.
So join me and our honoured guests as we seek answers to the big questions in healthcare and also help shape the sector so it is truly fit for the 21st century.
Suhail
Mirza
Host of Voices of Care

Meet our host
Suhail asks the big questions.
The healthcare system stands at one of the most important crossroads in its history. A profound shift in the way care is delivered in set out in the 10 Year Health Plan and the Casey Commission is due to deliver its initial Report into social care in 2026.
I am proud to have been the host of Voices of Care since its inception in 2022 and we have been honoured to have welcomed some of the most celebrated, successful and innovative leaders from across the healthcare landscape to share their stories and insights.
So join me and our honoured guests as we seek answers to the big questions in healthcare and also help shape the sector so it is truly fit for the 21st century.
Suhail
Mirza
Host of Voices of Care

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Say hello 👋
We’d love to hear from you.
Want to share your story or connect with the Voices of Care team? From press and partnership enquiries to feedback on recent episodes, we’d love to hear your voice.
Say hello 👋
We’d love to hear from you.
Want to share your story or connect with the Voices of Care team? From press and partnership enquiries to feedback on recent episodes, we’d love to hear your voice.